But wouldn’t their Final Task be to “drop dead”? After all, that’s what Viage ordered them to do, and I don’t think any of them made their save vs Tone…
@ Jay:
My interpretation of that one Zombie’s attitude in the last comic, combined with this info leads me to think the last thing our little group remembers is that someone they respected, trusted, and looked up to betrayed them by Toning them all to death and then adding insult to injury by stepping all over their bodies. Add in that I suspect Viage is the “first domino” that Qin spoke of a few pages back, (Qin said it was ok for him to die as long as it wasn’t on the Last Resort station.) and I would guess their shared Final Task is to get some payback… Here’s hoping Viage is a fast runner.
Part of me wants to giggle at the idea that star org soldiers are considered that competent. The rest of me is worried that my opinion is formed around them doing a lot of things they “aren’t trained for” – while soldiering, rather specifically, is…and thus I am significantly underestimating this issue, badly.
Okay that’s a scary thought. I just thought about the Mongols with space age technology charging as a way of death upon their opponents. If star org is even half as competent as the Mongols were I can understand why people would be scared of them
Oh Bleep…But no nukes necessary. A Thor strike should be more than sufficient. Think tungsten telephone pole coming in at meteoric velocity. Though, with a space station, all they’d need to do is evacutate the living, shut off the life support, and blow the airlocks. Zombies are still mostly water, and will still freeze.
On the other hand, if they’re pissed enough to want revenge, then you’ve possibly got a willing, trained army, if you can find a way to get them pointed in the right direction.
@ Jay, read further. Gabriel didn’t say anything about vaccuum….He said specifically that they don’t breathe. Therefore they don’t require a normal breathable atmosphere. They could work in hostile atmosphere conditions, like methane or hydrogen sulfide, or in places where having workers that don’t consume expensive and difficult to maintain oxygen supply would be an advantage. Even if it’s a spacewalk type occupation, they’d only have to pressurize the suit once, and could forgo the canned air…Heck, they could pressurize it with any gas they felt like using, from the most available element in the universe, hydrogen, to waste gases like carbon dioxide. Hell, apart from the shitty ethics of killing people and/or shattering their souls to creat them, zombies would almost be the best of hostile environment workers, and especially so if they’re as immune to heat, cold, and pain as zombies are portrayed.
@meowwl
They are not likely to freeze. Vacuum is, like, the worst conductor of heat. It is plenty cold enough(effectively) to drain out all your heat, but with no way to transfer it you are mostly subject to radiant heat. They will still be inside the station, surrounded by furniture that was kept in life-support temperatures that will all be radiating heat, so the radiant heat issue is not so bad either, the only real issue is sweat, and the zeds probably don’t do that… Additionally, depending upon what the local stellar objects are doing, the life-support may actually be doing more cooling than heating as stars tend to generate a lot of thermal energy…
I really don’t know this subject well, so I couldn’t hope to provide an accurate assessment, but I cannot imagine that temperature would slow them down in time to stop them blasting open doors, at which point venting the atmosphere is doing more harm than good, unless you are trying to stop the zeds from recruiting, but even then, space is much better at causing unconsciousness than death…
Freezing them with vacuum is a good plan if you have hours, or maybe even days, to wait around, but if you are dealing with trained soldiers who are presumably equipped to deal with someone triggering the internal depressurisation protections to stop said soldiers… You are better off using the life-support than removing it.
![[FILLER] The Zombie at the End of This Book](https://www.lastres0rt.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-28-zombie.jpg "[FILLER] The Zombie at the End of This Book")
Interesting…
But wouldn’t their Final Task be to “drop dead”? After all, that’s what Viage ordered them to do, and I don’t think any of them made their save vs Tone…
So what we’re saying is the Org is great at pretending they don’t ever screw up.
Nuke it from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.
…Is this what Qin was trying to avoid? Because if so, there’s been a big oops….
@ Jay:
My interpretation of that one Zombie’s attitude in the last comic, combined with this info leads me to think the last thing our little group remembers is that someone they respected, trusted, and looked up to betrayed them by Toning them all to death and then adding insult to injury by stepping all over their bodies. Add in that I suspect Viage is the “first domino” that Qin spoke of a few pages back, (Qin said it was ok for him to die as long as it wasn’t on the Last Resort station.) and I would guess their shared Final Task is to get some payback… Here’s hoping Viage is a fast runner.
@nikolai: News at 11.
Zombie apocalypse, only the *zombies* are the ones smart enough to carry guns and aim for the head? Yeah, that could be a problem.
Now the big question is, how much of the above is true, and how much is anti-DI propaganda?
@Sabreur: That is the funniest thing I have heard all year. Mostly because the year isn’t even a month old yet, true, but the statement still stands.
Well that’s one heck of a mess this is going to be a very very good clean up team
Part of me wants to giggle at the idea that star org soldiers are considered that competent. The rest of me is worried that my opinion is formed around them doing a lot of things they “aren’t trained for” – while soldiering, rather specifically, is…and thus I am significantly underestimating this issue, badly.
Okay that’s a scary thought. I just thought about the Mongols with space age technology charging as a way of death upon their opponents. If star org is even half as competent as the Mongols were I can understand why people would be scared of them
Oh Bleep…But no nukes necessary. A Thor strike should be more than sufficient. Think tungsten telephone pole coming in at meteoric velocity. Though, with a space station, all they’d need to do is evacutate the living, shut off the life support, and blow the airlocks. Zombies are still mostly water, and will still freeze.
On the other hand, if they’re pissed enough to want revenge, then you’ve possibly got a willing, trained army, if you can find a way to get them pointed in the right direction.
@meowwl – You know Gabriel was producing zombies (he thought) specifically for no-life-support-required space work?
https://www.lastres0rt.com/2013/02/whiplash-is-painful/
@ Jay, read further. Gabriel didn’t say anything about vaccuum….He said specifically that they don’t breathe. Therefore they don’t require a normal breathable atmosphere. They could work in hostile atmosphere conditions, like methane or hydrogen sulfide, or in places where having workers that don’t consume expensive and difficult to maintain oxygen supply would be an advantage. Even if it’s a spacewalk type occupation, they’d only have to pressurize the suit once, and could forgo the canned air…Heck, they could pressurize it with any gas they felt like using, from the most available element in the universe, hydrogen, to waste gases like carbon dioxide. Hell, apart from the shitty ethics of killing people and/or shattering their souls to creat them, zombies would almost be the best of hostile environment workers, and especially so if they’re as immune to heat, cold, and pain as zombies are portrayed.
@meowwl
They are not likely to freeze. Vacuum is, like, the worst conductor of heat. It is plenty cold enough(effectively) to drain out all your heat, but with no way to transfer it you are mostly subject to radiant heat. They will still be inside the station, surrounded by furniture that was kept in life-support temperatures that will all be radiating heat, so the radiant heat issue is not so bad either, the only real issue is sweat, and the zeds probably don’t do that… Additionally, depending upon what the local stellar objects are doing, the life-support may actually be doing more cooling than heating as stars tend to generate a lot of thermal energy…
I really don’t know this subject well, so I couldn’t hope to provide an accurate assessment, but I cannot imagine that temperature would slow them down in time to stop them blasting open doors, at which point venting the atmosphere is doing more harm than good, unless you are trying to stop the zeds from recruiting, but even then, space is much better at causing unconsciousness than death…
Freezing them with vacuum is a good plan if you have hours, or maybe even days, to wait around, but if you are dealing with trained soldiers who are presumably equipped to deal with someone triggering the internal depressurisation protections to stop said soldiers… You are better off using the life-support than removing it.